October 8, 1969
(Regarding a letter from the healer in which he asks Mother if
he could contact the Indian government and obtain its collabo
ration to spread the "Spiritual message" as he understands it.)
I got a letter from A.R. You should read it ….
I am absolutely convinced that he can’t do ANYTHING with the government, absolutely nothing. But just to please him, I arranged a meeting with N.S. [[N.S. is a disciple of Mother's who accompanied Indira Gandhi during her visit of October 6, and who holds a minister's post. ]] and she accepted, but she had something else to do and couldn’t be there. Did he tell you anything?
He didn’t mention it to me, but he did tell me that he would like to reach all the least mentalized classes. He says, "Here, many more people than we think are ready, and they aren’t hampered by the mind. A lot of work could be done."
Yes, of course.
"But," he says, "I don’t know the language, so what can I do?
He can’t do anything. And mentally, they have everything one could have! Even then, there are swarms of preachers. As for me, I am convinced that mentally he can’t do anything.
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It would be more like a work of service, healing everywhere, that
sort of thing.
Yes, that’s it. But he doesn’t realize what he’s saying! What he writes me people here would find childish.
The only difference is that it would be a living testimony.
Yes, that’s his strength. But I find him much more useful and powerful when he says nothing than when he talks – when he talks, of course, you see … Yes, it’s very useful in Europe, but not here. Here, people are saturated with preachers.
It’s an invisible and silent action that’s needed.
Yes … If he cured people, then he could have influence. But I’ve been wondering if he shouldn’t rather withdraw to cure himself [of the hernia].
Then you really should tell him, because I know this man, he’ll
never decide that himself – he doesn’t feel it possible to take care
of himself and stop serving others. If you tell him …
I could write him a line.
***
Then Mother takes up
various notes:
This is the message for the New Year [1970].
"The world is Preparing for a big change.
Will you help?"
And this … the other day, I gave Indira four messages.
Was she receptive?
Yes. I didn’t speak; she stayed here for fifteen minutes without saving a word. Then N.S. came in and she asked me a few questions. But these (Mother points to the notes) I had received before: one after another I received them.
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"Let India work for the future and take the lead.
Thus she will recover her true place in the world."
"Since long it was the habit to govern through
division and opposition.
"The time has come to govern through union,
mutual understanding and collaboration."
"To choose a collaborator, the value of the man is
more important than the party to which he belongs."
It seems it was just what she needed to hear! But now it’s always like that; when it comes in that way, I am sure that … I gave it to her without saying anything; I put it in an envelope. And N.S. said, "It’s just what she needed to hear."
"The greatness of a country does not depend on the victory of a party, but on the union of all the parties."
(Mother points to another note)
The Pondicherry radio asked me for a message to be put up in their office, so I gave them this – and they put it up!
"Teach your listeners to love the Truth.
This is a work worth doing."
(Mother laughs) They put it up, that’s what amuses me!
(Mother starts writing
her note to the healer)
"The time seems opportune for you to make your
last conquest over illness, and to do that, you
need some rest in a solitary place. Everything
can easily be arranged. Satprem will explain."
His contact is good, you know.
Yes. S.’s child is no longer in pain at all, he’s quite fine.
His reflection about the Ashram is that there is here a privileged
substance, with a knowledge he has never seen anywhere else,
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but which lacks intensity and energy, and also practice.
Practice, yes.
They take life as it comes.
Yes, because they have an easy life.
That shocks him: not to do the work with all that’s here!
That’s because their life is too easy If they’re asked to make the slightest effort, they rebel.
***
(Soon afterwards, regarding Sujata’s question about love
in the conversation of October 1st.)
Last night I had a very interesting experience …. I had a long vision – an activity – which I didn’t remember because I didn’t pay sufficient attention, but at the end, there was someone (that was certainly symbolic), a tall black man. It probably wasn’t a human being, it must have been the symbol of something in my life, or something in the life of the people I’ve lived with, or even the symbol of something I’ve been fighting against in life. And then, after a lot, quite a lot of goings-on, I had withdrawn into a small place with a few people (those I always see, who are always there), I was there with them when that black man, or that black BEiNG … There was no roof; it was a small place with walls, but without a roof (it was in the subtle physical). So that black being came, ripped off a huge piece of wall (the wall was built with big bricks), a huge piece of wall, and from above (he was above me), he threw it at my stomach …. I felt it. And at the same time, I heard a thunderclap was there a thunderclap last night? … Just one. Early in the night?
I don’t think so.
You don’t know … I saw a flash of lightning outside before going to sleep, so I thought maybe … But I am not sure; the thunderclap too may have taken place in the subtle physical …. It fell like this (Mother strikes her stomach). I felt it fall (Mother smiles), I smiled and said, "He can’t!" (Mother laughs) And it didn’t hurt me in the
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least! Then he left. And it was as if to teach me … I looked, wondering, "How could I receive it?" Then the answer was so clear: it was to teach my body that it can be attacked but won’t feel anything.
I felt it, but it didn’t hurl! And there’s no trace. And there’s nothing – there was enough to crush you! (Mother laughs) And there was nothing. The body was tranquil, tranquil, tranquil …. It woke me up, and I wondered if I’d been hurt, but there was nothing. And where it fell, I saw it, I felt the shock – I felt it, that’s what woke me up: a shock and a sort of weight, and a gap in the wall as big as a door. So then, the body’s reaction, but instantaneous (that is, without reflecting or anything), instantaneous, was … "Oh, Lord," like this (Mother opens her arms upward), smiling. Not at all frightened or … Then I took a good look and wondered, "Am I hurt anywhere?" There was nothing …. Because I kept the two together: the state of vision and the physical state at the same time; in the state of vision I wanted to know whether I’d been hurt (it hadn’t done anything), and in both states the reaction was the same, like this (same gesture, arms open), with a smile. So it shows that … the thing is really done.
Later this morning, when I was fully awake, I wondered, "How could I get that? How could that being do it?" (Because it did take place, I received it! [Mother laughs] He wasn’t stopped from doing it.) Then the answer was very clear: it was for your body to learn that it’s really and effectively protected, even if something takes place.
It was interesting.
That black being, I see him very often …. It must be the symbol of the force opposed in the world (not only on the earth but in the world) to the Action I have been given to do. He is associated with my body. A tall, tall black being, all black ….
There was a long story This morning I still remembered; now I don’t.
But it was interesting. It’s the first time such a thing has happened to me; it’s the first time someone has managed to harm me in the subtle physical – he didn’t harm me, but he pulled off his attack.
(silence)
But it’s odd …. For instance, when the body received the thing (there was a shock), not for a minute did it have … (fear, there’s no question of it), but not for a minute did it say, "Ah, what a disgusting thing to do!" – nothing, nothing, the SAME smile, everywhere ….
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That’s the point it has reached, you understand: a sort of awareness that whatever happens happens by the divine Will, that it’s ALWAYS for the best, and it’s only human stupidity, lack of understanding, shortsightedness that make us say, "Oh, what a misfortune! Oh …"
It’s all MARVELOUSLY arranged.
When the body is aware of that, then it’s fine …. It’s far from having reached perfection – to begin with, it’s … I don’t know if it’s being transformed, that’s not visible, but at any rate its functioning depends on the higher Consciousness, it no longer depends on the ordinary mechanism (that’s taking place gradually). Well, even in the middle of that, there’s a sort of smiling trust as a result of which, even when there’s some pain, some discomfort, it doesn’t matter – it doesn’t matter. There is the sense of this Divine Presence, always, everywhere, every moment. That doesn’t go away.
(silence)
Oh, you know, we think we’re very intelligent, but … (laughing) how poorly we understand! It’s like a little piece cut out of the Whole, so we no longer see anything.
Now it’s beginning to be better.
(silence)
Has it made your nights more conscious?
A little, now and then.
I often see you.
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